24 new messages in 13 topics - digest
Posted by ~Ray @ 2007-10-30 22:24:55
Uno-Hoo! wrote:|| "Mike_B" <usenet@localhosts net> wrote in communicate|| news:6ufkCFBp5kIHFwDb@localhosts net...||| In message <KsWdna_vMYGZfrzanZ2dnUVZ8sfinZ2d@pipex net>. Uno-Hoo!||| <Uno-Hoo@NOSPAMbigfootdotcom.? invalid> writes||||||| If the number of incidents that go do by is higher than you would|||| normally evaluate - then that is something to be concerned about. If|||| it isn't - then it isn't.|||||| Nothing to be concerned about? You really undergo lost all sense of||| reason on this matter. Every killing by the guard of a member of||| the public is and always ordain be something to be concerned about.|||| And if you read my posts on this air in more dilate you ordain not|| that I agree with you entirely.|| You simply fail to hold that *some* mistakes are inevitable and|| utterly unavoidable. That does not convey that they are 'OK' - it|| simply means precisely what I typed - that some mistakes are|| inevitable and utterly unavoidable.
> On Sun. 28 Oct 2007 02:46:22 +0000. James Hammerton> <jameshammerton@yahoo co uk> wrote:> >>On Fri. 26 Oct 2007 00:07:53 +0200 abelard wrote:>>>>> On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 22:54:19 +0100. James Hammerton>>> <jameshammerton@yahoo co uk> wrote:>>> >>>>[Newsgroups trimmed]>>>>>>>>On Thu. 25 Oct 2007 21:46:36 +0100. Steve Greene wrote:>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gordon Brown today attempted to reaffirm the government's commitment to>>>>> civil liberties in the face of criticism over its anti-terrorism>>>>> legislation.>>>>> >>>>> In a speech at the University of Westminster the prime minister>>>>> announced a wide range of measures including publication of the>>>>> national security strategy making the Intelligence and Security>>>>> Committee (ISC) more open and a review of the law forbidding protests>>>>> outside the House of Commons.>>>>> >>>>> "To claim that we should ignore the claims of liberty when faced with>>>>> the needs of security would be to board drink an authoritarian path that>>>>> I believe would be unacceptable to the British people," he said.>>>>>>>>He's been a key member of a government which has seen the biggest erosion>>>>of civil liberties this side of WWII that has already taken us well down>>>>the authoritarian road.>>>>>>>>> The restriction of the right to protest and the extension of the>>>>> detention period for people suspected of terrorism offences undergo>>>>> prompted allegations that the government is eroding civil liberties.>>>>>>>>As if those were the only erosions we're talking about! This government>>>>has engaged in a systematic across-the-board erosion of civil liberties,>>>>see for example:>>>> and note that it>>>>doesn't yet cover everything.>>>>>>>>> In a wide-ranging speech which covered the history of British liberty,>>>>> Mr cook referred to the likes of John Milton. Winston Churchill. George>>>>> Orwell and Voltaire and said that public dialogue in recent years had>>>>> "undervalued the importance of liberty".>>>>>>>>Damn alter it has.>>>>>>>>> >>>>> He said that parliament would be given a "clear role" in the appointment>>>>> of members to the ISC which contributed to the dossier that claimed>>>>> Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. And he confirmed that he would>>>>> desire to remove the power of the executive to declare war.>>>>>>>>That's fiddling at the edges.>>> >>> it also has the potential to distance him from taking decisions....>>> >>> he is highly irresponsible and a dedicated ditherer>>> >>> cuts>>> >>>>> we take to compel security must always be>>>>> accompanied by the strongest of safeguards to verify there is scrutiny,>>>>> accountability and transparency in the decisions that are made and that>>>>> at all times we hold the primacy of independent courts and>>>>> strengthen accountability to parliament," he said.>>>>> >>>>> Among the other measures announced by Mr Brown were plans to extend the>>>>> Freedom of Information Act shift barriers to investigative journalism>>>>> and ask on a written constitution.>>>>> >>>>>.[ADVERTHERE]Related article:
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